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Saturday, 9 July 2011

Informative inbreeding article

This blog was created to inform people of the latest happenings at this cattery and of course allow people to see up to date pictures of their chosen kittens. I thought it may also be nice to occasionally post links to articles I find interesting and relevant so here is the first. Click on the title to be taken to an article on the harmful effects of inbreeding, something I think both owners and breeders should be aware of and do their best to try and avoid. Responsible breeding should first and foremost take into account the health of the cats and kittens and not be solely based on show wins as echoed by this article. The article is very basic and easy to understand but gets the point across well for owners as after all everyone wants a healthy pet.

11 comments:

  1. Interesting but vague comments, not really informative. Any such articles should quote the science and be backed up by case studies with a balance on both sides.
    All cat breeds are from small gene pools, including the siberian, the only way you will get diversity is to cross with other breeds, not something that is encouraged for the aboriginal breeds such as the sibby, but sooner or later will have to be done (see BSH history). I personally have combined different lines, but still find problems exist, often if you dont know your outcross, you cannot predict failures and may be introducing a 'bad' gene.
    I my opinion, it is better to breed a few good litters from parents and lines you have researched, see the results and discard those combinations that display problems, sharing this with other breeders so they do not make the same mistakes.

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  2. Thankyou for your comments Shirley as I said not really aimed at breeders as basic but is more to make people i.e. owners aware. Yes all breeds start from a few foundation cats but as the numbers grow there is the opportunity for breeders to increase genetic diversity which has been linked to better health and litter size/fertility. I am sure the information is out there for those wanting to know more on the subject. Pawpeds etc. I believe there are chances of less problems if you breed less related cats together. Lethal recessive genes come about by breeding two cats who both carry the gene. The immune system functions better the more diversity there is. Even in a breed there is still ways to keep inbreeding co effs low. Inherited diseases will always exist and you cannot predict everything that will happen but it stands to reason close family matings will over time result in problems.

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  3. Even if there are more cats, they still come from the same root stock so there cannot be more diversity, they are still related. The introduction of new lines from Russia, as long as these are healthy, will improve things. However if the increasing reliance on cetain lines in our breed for showing continues, we are in danger of crashing.
    Breeders should check out all lines available and select those that are healthy.
    The potential new owner does not really understand the ins and outs and it is our responsibility as breeders to breed healthy, good tempered cats as a priority and good looks as a bonus!

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  4. New cats are coming along out of Russia and there are many different lines. If you go back far enough then yes as I said they will be related but the further away you get the lower the co effs providing you don't go back into the lines. I agree that looks should be the last consideration but health and temperament are important. My point is unfortunately some people don't see past the show success and looks. Owners won't understand the ins and outs for sure but they need to know about inbreeding and the harmful effects.

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  5. the co effs are only numbers....the cats all carry the same genes, dont rely on these

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  6. so inbreeding co effs are not important???? not every gene is passed on and the co effs determine how heterozygous an animal is which equals generally better health and immune system function, bad recessive genes can only come from two cats who both carry them which is much more likely if they are related. I personally think inbreeding co effs are important if you are wanting to keep diversity or thats certainly what the expects say anyway.

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  7. Not everybody sees things your way Clare and even though I wouldn't inbreed myself I wouldn't dare preach to established breeders who've worked very hard getting Siberians and other breeds to such a high standard both in health, temperament and type.
    You haven't mentioned the advantages of inbreeding which in all fairness you should have done.
    Without inbreeding we wouldn't have the amazing Siberian cats we have today would we ????

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  8. Yes I know not everyone sees things my way Jackie and unfortunately the inbreeding has brought about genetic diseases in other more established breeds. The benefits well you can fix type quicker and maybe if you are lucky find out if your lines carry recessive traits then inbreeding will bring them to light, but I personally don't think trial matings and discarding the bad results is a good option. These discarded cats are peoples pets and I don't think mixing closely related cats together to see what happens is an option. The post was not me preaching to other breeders it was aimed at pet owners who I think should be made aware of the practice. Yes there has been inbreeding to get to where we are but I feel we must be careful about what we are doing. Health comes first and inbreeding does not equal good health. I think you are being a little biased here Jackie.

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  9. I disagree. I am not being biased at all, simply pointing out the other side of the arguement.
    I have an inbred cat myself but didn't breed her. She is in excellent health and I would hope she will stay that way for a very long time.
    Can you guarantee all your cats and recently produced kittens will live long and healthy lives just because they're not inbred ?? Of course not. No breeder wants to breed unhealthy kittens do they ? To suggest fellow breeders would deliberately do this is disgusting.

    You say your post was aimed at pet owners, well kittens sold to them would be spayed or neutered surely !!! Therefore they would have no need of this information would they ?

    I think new breeders should be made aware of the effects of overbreeding rather than inbreeding. This is far more relevant. What happens to all those unwanted kittens ???

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  10. no one can guarantee good health of course not but it is a fact that continued inbreeding results in weaker immune systems which will make a cat more prone to illness. It does not matter if the kitten is part of a breeding program, they are still someone's pet and should ideally be in good health and hopefully not carrying disease that may cause issues later on. Excessive inbreeding will over time cause problems but it is only one issue amongst many. Yes over breeding and poor conditions may results in poor health also, a good breeder should only breed based on demand for kittens.

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